Developer Interviews
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Content Warning
At around 10:32, whilst discussing sandbox games, Jackal brings up the fact that titles like RimWorld allow you to safely explore very taboo subjects like cannibalism. We felt that it was important to keep this discussion in the episode; not because we support cannibalism, but more because we thought it was important to have the discussion about the fact that games allow us to build a fantasy world where we can explore these ideas and see what they are about.
At 34:16, when describing the beginnings of the project, Bird mentions that the game started out life as
sort of a $h!t post
Please listen responsibly.
Show Notes
Squidge was MIA when we recorded this episode, so he isn’t on this one. But Jay was on hand to interview Jackal and Bird from the Roadkill Software team. At the time of the recording, Roadkill Software were working on a brand new PC title called Fluff ‘n Fury.
Fluff ‘n Fury
Before they got sidetracked, Jay wanted to know about Fluff ‘n Fury. And the Roadkill folks described it as:
It’s basically an FPS shooter, sort of in the vein of Half-Life - well not really Half-Life. It would be a little unfair to call it Half-Life; more like a campaign of some sorts.
It’ll also will feature a diverging cast. So you’ll have to go through several different play-throughs to find every single level. And it will include some non-FPS segments as well.
Immediately, it sound rather intriguing and reminded us of the branching story-path of Sonic Adventure and similar titles
but with less in the way of embarrassing voice acting and audio levelling issues, we hope
All this talk of mixing up the play styles had us talking about sandbox games, and how the sandbox genre
if you can call it that
is likely one of the most innovative in the industry right now. Being able to throw a player into a world with tools, vehicles, basic rules, and allow them to invent their own fun is truly game-changing - if you’ll pardon the pun - with the greatest of them being Garry’s Mod.
Favourite Sandbox Titles
A discussion of sandbox games would be incomplete without talking about some of our favourites. So Jay posed the question
What are some of your favourite sandbox games?
Bird | Jackal |
---|---|
Pavlov VR | RimWorld |
Subnautica | Stellaris |
And this discussion on sandbox and sandbox-like games brings up the topic of being able to explore different ideas, political stances, behaviours, and taboos without worrying about any real-world results or potential side effects of those actions or thoughts.
It’s not like you endorse this thing in real life, but what could happen in a diplomatic way if you go for it.
Another example that we bring up is the Postal series. We’re all in agreement that very few (if any) players of those games endorse the ideas of over-the-top situations and behaviours in those games, but it does allow the player a safe space to explore the absurdity of the situation.
And of course, Jay takes a logical extreme using a recent release as an example:
At the time of recording [Pokémon Legends: Arceus] has just been released. Is that game endorsing running around, capturing [wild] animals, and stuffing them into small metallic boxes?
No. But it is encouraging people to go out into the world and have a look around at what there is to see and what there is to do.
And since Jay kept bringing up “the date of recording”, we recorded this episode on January 29th, 2022.
The Thunder Plain Games
For those who are new to the pod, we have a section called “Thunder Plain Games” which might be vaguely reminiscent of a certain programme on BBC Radio 4
but for copyright reasons, it is completely different
Imagine that you are in Final Fantasy X, and the Thunder Plains is a place that you get banished to. And what we’re going to do is we’re going to open a portal to the Thunder Plains and, very nicely and politely, boot you through it. You will get help, maybe it will be tomorrow, maybe it will be in a week, maybe it will be in an hour.
To stop you from getting bored, we’ve said that we’ll keep the portal open and we’ll throw through up to three video games and everything you need to play them - including an Internet connection. The only rules are that you can’t ask for help, because help is on the way, and you can’t tell anyone that you’re in the Thunder Plains.
So our question is: were we to do throw, boot, or yeet you through the portal, which games are we throwing through with you? And both Bird and Jackal obliged with the titles that they would take with them:
Bird | Jackal |
---|---|
Minecraft | Fallout 2 (with the Restoration Patch) |
Jay references a speed run where the runner worked through all of the Fallout games, in sequence, in two hours. This particular speed run was performed by TomatoAngus
"the g is silent"
which you can watch below, should you want to. However, we’ll issue a
content warning
as there are some swears in this run:
Fluff ‘n Fury Redux
Jay wanted to really talk about Fluff ‘n Fury, and do a deep-dive into the motivations, design choices, and all that stuff. He really likes talking to creative folks involved in video game creation, searching for those nuggets of advice and information about the why and the how
rather than just the what
that went into the games that people make. But first, some screenshots taken directly from Twitter:
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So why animals? Well, it turns out that it’s a rather simple reason, really:
We went with it because our graphics budget was basically zero. And cartoony graphics are easier to make and mass produce. So you know what, why not slap an animal head on ‘em, too?
This also means that you’re not shooting people, which also means that there’s very little chance of any kind of racial or political projection onto the “enemies” in the game.
Which we think is pretty clever, really
and maybe one of the reasons why FFNAF got super popular
And it also means that you can use the cultural stereotypes for the given species when you’re dealing with anthropomorphic creatures.
The Inspiration Behind Fluff ‘n Fury
It originally started as a pet project; a sort of $h!t post. And a reaction to some of the churn that’s been released on mobile platforms. But we wanted to be serious about it, because making a game is hard
And this is something that Jay agreed upon; he even brought up the fact that a bunch of churnware, Unity
on Unreal
apps like the Calculator for Nintendo Switch as an example.
Which started a conversation about the differences between publishing apps to the Android an iOS/Apple store; with the Android store being more of the Wild West, and the Apple store having stringent quality checks.
Discussing the design of the game, especially the fact that the player plays as an anthropomorphised animal, it reminded Jay of Dogs of War by Adrian Tchaikovsky
if you haven’t read it, it’s well worth a look
Gameplay, Keeping it Fresh, and the Story
We also like to diversify on the levels to detract from all the shooting. So one of the levels that we’re trying out is running through a bombing range.
And providing something different between levels is important
in Jay’s opinion
because otherwise it becomes really old, really fast. Which meant that it was great to hear that Bird (and the team) are trying out a bunch of different gameplay mechanics and level designs in the hopes of keeping it fresh.
And when it comes to the story of the game, Bird confims that it’s as simple as possible:
Your girlfriend wants you to go meet her, so you have to go to meet her.
External Links of Interest
- Support us on Ko-Fi
- Our Facebook page
- Us on Twitter
- Roadkill Software on Twitter
- Fallout 2 Restoration Project
- Dogs of War by Adrian Tchaikovsky
Music
Links to the music used in the podcast can be found below. Definitely check them out, because they're amazing tracks by awesome musicians.
- Intro music is Among The Stars, from the Cosmos Music Pack by Muz Station Productions
- Spoiler Break music is Spectrum (Subdiffusion Mix) by Foniqz (BandCamp)
- Pallet Cleanser music is Breath Deep Breath Clear (Wu Chi) by Siobhan Dakay
- Funny Quirky Comedy by Redafs.com, Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License
- Thunder Plains - FFX OST © Square-Enix
- Outro Music is I N e e d Y o u 私の側て by G.H (removed from BandCamp)
Games Covered
We mentioned 28 games in this podcast. In the following order, those games where:- Fluff 'n Fury
- Half-Life
- Doom
- Call of Duty (series)
- Subnautica
- Borderlands 2
- Grand Theft Auto (series)
- Garry's Mod
- RimWorld
- Dwarf Fortress
- Pavlov VR
- Counter Strike (series)
- Stellaris
- The Sims
- Postal (series)
- Pokémon Legends: Arceus
- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
- Fallout 2
- Payday 2
- Cry of Fear
- Fur Fighters
- Five Nights at Freddies (series)
- Black Tiger
- Resident Evil
- Bad Dudes
- Cruelty Squad
- Super Mario Bros
- Tabletop Simulator