Waffling Taylors Goes To The Movies

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Content Warning

Due to the nature of the movie we talk about in this episode, we’d recommend that you don’t listen to this one with little ones around.

Please listen responsibly

Show Notes

We couldn’t possibly cover everything in the 2004 zombie-a-thon Resident Evil Apocalypse in one episode, so we had AndrewD return to talk with us about this train wreck of a film. As this is part two

you can find part one here

of our discussion on this film.

The Plot So Far

Here is a summary of the “plot” so far:

  • Flashbacks to set up the backstory
  • Is it Matt or Max?
  • “2 Weeks earlier”, opening the hive, and portable CD players
  • Dr. Ashford loses his daughter, because his car is hit, but she’s alive
  • Jill “Bad-Ass” Valentine murders a bunch of people in the middle of a police station, and no one bats an eyelid
  • Captain Switzerland is sent by Umbrella to run the mop-up operation
  • Running up several flights of stairs in heels
  • Carlos saves the day… or not
  • Leg fu for the win
  • Bluetooth earpieces
  • Totally not the Berlin Wall
  • Surplus and more!
  • Dr. Ashford has frowny-face glasses, but hacks the system
  • Recreating the intro from Resident Evil 3 -Activating Nemesis through science and gratuitous bar charts
  • Help me, Alice Kenobi. You’re my only hope
  • Fighting in a graveyard
  • Entering the church
  • That person I know… maybe they’re not a zombie
  • Jill’s badassery makes her forget her training
  • An action scene which Jay describes as:
Jay's Avatar Jay

Alice dealing with the lickers is so far over the top, it’s practically in lower orbit

  • Leg fu saves the day, and donkey kicks for the win

The Plot… continues?

  • The helicopter drops its hip-gear
  • Why does Nemesis need to kill STARS members?
  • Alice is magic now?
  • Superhero fights
  • Alice is the Deus Ex Machina

"the god in the machine"

who said we weren’t educational as well as entertaining?

  • Bombs have yields, and Jill knows what that means
  • Zombie kids are creepy
  • You wont miss the dogs, they make a huge point of showing you them
  • Jill is Lara Croft, at this point
  • Terry gets munched
AndrewD's Avatar AndrewD

I’m pretty sure that it was in her contract that nobody can be more badass than Alice

  • Chair fu is not a valid self defence mechanism
Squidge's Avatar Squidge

Dogs do not like fry pans. Fact!

  • Infected people can tell who else is infected?!
  • Who needs gravity? Certainly not Alice
Jay's Avatar Jay

I can suspend my disbelief enough to get that there are zombies. I can suspend it enough to get that there is a monster on the loose, with a rocket launcher and a gatling gun, who is also some kind of robot. But I draw the line at running down the face of a building, in an effort to get to the bottom… and she’s not even running down it

  • Code Veronica references abound
  • A fist fight with Nemesis… because that makes sense
  • There’s still 25 minutes of the film left?!
Squidge's Avatar Squidge

Steady on Shang Tsung

  • “I can give you the world on a platter”
  • Criminal under use of LJ
  • How does the virus actually work?
  • Hubris?
  • “I wont beg” also “WAIT!”
  • More shakey fist logic than you could shake a fist at
  • 1-800-555-JAIL
Showing the tail end of the phone number that characters within the film should call: 1-800-555-JAIL
Best fake news phone number ever (click to enlarge)
  • Alice is reborn (a.k.a “Lets rip off Alien Resurrection”)
AndrewD's Avatar AndrewD

It’s a step too far in a movie about the dead coming back to life

  • Alice is Eve from Parasite Eve now?
  • Wait, Alice is a robot now?

AndrewD’s theory of the trilogy makes perfect sense, by the way

  • An ending which makes no sense

How Would We Rate It?

We don’t usually rate games or movies, in fact we have never done that. And this was a conscious decision that we made early in the life of the site

we discussed this with Chief on one of his early episodes

But we needed to figure out a way to tell you all whether we think you should watch this movie or not. In order to do this, we decided that we’d need three ratings for three categories.

The ratings are:

  • Love it (best)
  • Try it

which we called "Watch it" in this episode

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but only because I got it’s name wrong

  • Fling it into a tree (worst)

And the categories are:

  • As a generic, action-horror movie

    talk about being specific

  • As a video game movie
  • As a Resident Evil the video game movie
AndrewDs Ratings
CategoryRating
As a generic, action-horror movieTry it
As a video game movieTry it
As a Resident Evil the video game movieTry it
Squidges Ratings
CategoryRating
As a generic, action-horror movieTry it
As a video game movieTry it
As a Resident Evil the video game movieFling it to a tree

And Squidge has some comments from both G (aka #don’tCallMyAudrey):

G's Avatar G

Resident Evil Apocalypse made me wince harder than vodka has in years

and one from chief:

Chief's Avatar Chief

It’s ever so slightly less monotonous than root canal

Jays Ratings
CategoryRating
As a generic, action-horror movieTry it
As a video game movieTry it
As a Resident Evil the video game movieFling it into a tree

Community Comments

AndrewD was kind enough to tweet out about the episode shortly before we recorded:

Firefox users: because of the way that Twitter works, you wont see the embedded tweet

I’m also a Firefox user

Due to the recent changes at Twitter, we are unable to embed tweets at this time. We apologise for the inconvenience.

There’s a wonderful typo in his tweet, see if you can spot it.

We have a wonderful conversation about who should play Nemesis: Hugh Grant or Rowan Atkinson (as Mr. Bean). And to be fair…

A terrible photoshop that Jay created, superimposing a rubber mark of Mr. Bean over the face of Nemesis
Yikes! (click to enlarge)

I’d recommend that you’d read through the Twitter thread, as there are some amazing comments in there.

It’s also worth looking through the comments on the post that I made on the Resident Evil subreddit asking for thoughts on the second film

I’d usually worn about it being Reddit, but I’ve found that the RE subreddit is full of really nice people

I’d like to highlight two replies to that post, actually:

It’s among my least favorites of the movies(along with Retribution and Final Chapter), it’s not tense like the first movie and the action is also inferior to other installments. Sienna did a solid job as Jill, but she’s too sidelined and the material she got is not enough. I also don’t think she looked super duper close to the game, but that’s more of a nitpick(her hair is raven black instead of dark brown, there’s no jacket on the waist as well).

- LukeyTarg2

and

I agree with the previous comments. For me, I was excited that I heard they were bringing Nemesis in franchise at the end of the first film. Then when Apocalypse was released, I was a little disappointed of how they handled the character. It looked and acted like him in the games but in the movie he didn’t even mutate. It may have been cool to see. Since Alice has superpowers, there are too many scenes in this film that are ridiculous! Alice riding through the church window while on the motorcycle was the most cringe worthy moment that killed the horror atmosphere instantly for me. The scenes that they took from Code Veronica were poorly executed. Not as great of an effect when Alice does it.

- CanuckNation83

there’s more to this quote, so I’d check out the full thread above

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Games Covered

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