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Resident Evil Apocalypse with Andrew Dickinson - Shakey Fist Logic (Part One)

March 19, 2021

Waffling Taylors Goes To The Movies

Don’t forget to check out the other episodes in the series. Make sure to click here to see which movies we’ve already covered - we’re sure that you’ll love what you have to say.

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AndrewD

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Content Warning

Due to the nature of the movie we talk about in this episode, we’d recommend that you don’t listen to this one with little ones around.

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Show Notes

We have another video game movie discussion episode this week, as we tackle the 2004 train-wreck that is Resident Evil Apocalypse. Unlike when we talked about the first Resident Evil movie

here’s a link to that

we knew that we’d need help in discussing this movie. Luckily AndrewD had some time off between his podcasts, radio show

did you know that the DreamCast Years podcast has joined RadioSega?

and his Dreamcast Years Two book project, and wanted to discuss the second Resident Evil movie with us.


Side note: Yes, Jay is going to keep the “only good video game movie” title a secret until we’ve covered the majority of the movies on our list.


As with, pretty much, every episode we’ve put out so far this year, this one was recorded a little in advance

in fact it was actually recorded before the episode on the first Resident Evil movie went out

We recorded this mammoth conversation on October 11th, 2020.
I know that I bleat on about this a lot, but we really do record these shows way in advance (click to enlarge)

What’s great about this show is that we often get updates on Squidgey’s life goals:

Squidge's Avatar Squidge

My foot hasn’t fallen off, so I take that as a win

And, to be fair, there’s not much you can say to that really.

Thoughts Going In

Squidge immediately came up with a better name for the movie:

Squidge's Avatar Squidge

Resident Evil Chocapocalypse

which, we can all agree, would be a better movie. Andrew mentions:

AndrewD's Avatar AndrewD

Do you remember those little Cadbury’s machines you used to get at Christmas, that had the little, tiny things of Cadbury’s chocolate, and you’d put 2p in and it would spit them out?

What’s he’s referring to is one of these:

A Cadbury’s money box and chocolate dispenser..
Finding a high quality photo of one of these was a trip down memory lane (click to enlarge)

For each 10p piece you put into this, it would dispense a small piece of Cadbury’s chocolate. That is, if you had loaded the pieces of chocolate into the machine beforehand

which was the ONLY flaw in this device’s design

Imagine being peppered with chocolates while watching a movie. Wouldn’t that be great?

…

Anyway, so Resident Evil Apocalypse came out in 2004, and Jay hadn’t seen it since it came out. But before we dove into the sequel, we talked about the George A. Romero script

here’s a direct link to it

which was commissioned but never produced. Reading through it, you get a feeling that Romero had played the original game and had a handle on the story and characters.

The three of us felt that the fact that the previous film had so little to do with the franchise meant that Paul W. S. Anderson was forced to put as many references to the series into his sequel as possible. And clearly, he hated having to have Mary Sue Alice alongside Jill Valentine in this film.

The Plot - Part One

Here’s a 10,000 ft view of the “plot”, as we see it

  • Flashbacks to set up the backstory

Mansion that’s not really a mansion, "Nemesis", the dead walk the Earth, and the paper kimono

  • Is it Matt or Max?

the credits list the character as Matt, Squidge is convinced that Alice shouts "MAAA"

AndrewD's Avatar AndrewD

shooty shooty, gun gun. Lots of punchy zombie

pretty much sums of the direction of the movie

  • “2 Weeks earlier”, opening the hive, and portable CD players
A paperboy rides his bike and throws a newspaper, whilst a female jogger runs past
Early bit of violence from the paperboy (click to enlarge)
Squidge's Avatar Squidge

cycle-by clothesline

A person in a hazmat suit shows the viewer a device which looks a lot like a motion tracker from Aliens
They’re all around us, man (click to enlarge)
  • Dr. Ashford loses his daughter, because his car is hit, but she’s alive
  • Jill “Bad-Ass” Valentine murders a bunch of people in the middle of a police station, and no one bats an eyelid
AndrewD's Avatar AndrewD

it’s how bad-assing work’s, right?

Jill Valentine reloads her pistol, as an unnamed STARS member digs around their desk
Jill doesn’t care about you. Also, nice STARS reference (click to enlarge)
  • Captain Switzerland is sent by Umbrella to run the mop-up operation
  • Running up several flights of stairs in heels
  • Carlos saves the day… or not
Carlos, having leapt out of a helicopter, lands safely
Carlos looking a little more like Chris Redfield here (click to enlarge)
  • Leg fu for the win
  • Bluetooth earpieces
  • Totally not the Berlin Wall

which was constructed very quickly

  • Surplus and more!
AndrewD's Avatar AndrewD

but why not Kendo’s?

  • Dr. Ashford has frowny-face glasses, but hacks the system
  • Recreating the intro from Resident Evil 3
A close up of a discarded police riot helmet, showing the reflection of an approaching zombie hoard
RESIDENT EVIL 3 (click to enlarge)

-Activating Nemesis through science and gratuitous bar charts

A screen showing some bar charts (without a key or label) offset against the text "NEMESIS PROGRAM ACTIVATING"
I have no idea what’s happening, but clearly science is going on (click to enlarge)
  • Help me, Alice Kenobi. You’re my only hope
  • AndrewD recommends Chernobyl

that’s not part of the plot, just a recommendation from Andrew

  • Fighting in a graveyard
A walled gate, with a gap (to the right of the image) in the wall
Wait! What’s with the gap in the wall? Far right of the Image (click to enlarge)
  • Entering the church
  • That person I know… maybe they’re not a zombie
Squidge's Avatar Squidge

They’re in a church, right? Why didn’t they just grab a holy hand grenade?

  • Jill’s badassery makes her forget her training
  • An action scene which Jay describes as:
Jay's Avatar Jay

Alice dealing with the lickers is so far over the top, it’s practically in lower orbit

  • Leg fu saves the day, and donkey kicks for the win
Alice kicks a zombie which is standing behind her
Awkward shot is awkward (click to enlarge)

seriously, could they have used that whip sound any more in this scene?

Join Us Next Time

And that’s all we had time for in part one. Keep and eye open for part two, where we cover the rest of the film and talk about how we rate it.

External Links of Interest

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  • Resident Evil Apocalypse on IMDB
  • Dreamcast Years on RadioSega Announcement
  • George A. Romero script at the Resident Evil Wiki
    • The actual script
  • Chernobyl on IMDB

Music

Links to the music used in the podcast can be found below. Definitely check them out, because they're amazing tracks by awesome musicians.

  • Intro music is Among The Stars, from the Cosmos Music Pack by Muz Station Productions
  • Spoiler Break music is Spectrum (Subdiffusion Mix) by Foniqz (BandCamp)
  • Pallet Cleanser music is Breath Deep Breath Clear (Wu Chi) by Siobhan Dakay
  • Opening: Claire Version © Capcom/Takeshi Miura, Hijiri Anze, and Sanae Kasahara
  • Outro Music is I N e e d Y o u 私の側て by G.H (removed from BandCamp)
All copyrighted material contained within this podcast is the property of their respective rights owners. Please see the above list for copyright details pertaining to music used.

Games Covered

We mentioned 6 games in this podcast. In the following order, those games where:
  • Resident Evil
  • Resident Evil 0
  • Paperboy
  • Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
  • Resident Evil 2
  • Resident Evil: Code Veronica

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