Final Fantasy VII Remake With Lulu - Part Two

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Squidge

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Lulu

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Content Warning

At 8 minutes, we start a conversation about how exposure to Mako energy greatly reduces a character’s life, and explicitly use the words:

• death
• die

AT 24:35, Lulu says:

Lulu:

weird pissing contest

At 39:49 Lulu uses a euphemism which might end up being embarrassing to explain to little ones when she says:

Lulu:

Jessie… who’s a little bit thirsty with Cloud

Please listen responsibly

Show Notes

We’re back with the second part of our conversation on the Final Fantasy VII Remake

second?! Click here for the first part

and what a discussion it was.

Obviously spoilers abound in this episode: so

SPOILER ALERT!

For those who don’t remember: Squidge, Lulu, and I have completely different EXP levels with this game. Here’s a handy-dandy table which shows how much each of us has played so far:

Player	Level	Designation
	Level 9000!!!	Grand High Priestess
	Level 25	Black Mage in training
	Level -1,000,000	Wally of the 5th degree

why are you at level -1,000,000 Jay?

I hear you cry. Essentially because I don’t have a modern PlayStation, that’s why.

Things We Liked

Squidge talks about that Moogle slide

and Lulu agrees. Plus the conversation that Cloud and Aerith have in this scene is a lot more touching than in the original

or so I’ve been told - I haven’t played it, remember

to the point where it really improved on Aerith’s character and backstory - making her a much more fleshed out, 3D character.

We also discuss the fact that a lot of things which were hinted at in the original are a little more obvious this time around.

This was a great decision for two reasons:

1. There are some folks who wont have the time or ability to explore all of the side quests in order to find these things out
2. There are folks (like Squidge, Lulu, and myself) who played the original and want more things to see, people to talk to, and stuff to do

I also talk about this:

which was Square’s first go at creating a 3D JRPG line dance fighting system for the N64. For those who don’t recognise them, these are some of the characters from Final Fantasy VI. Square was looking at the possibility of up-scaling and re-releasing the SNES title for the N64, before dropping that idea to work on VII.

Then Squidge drops this bomb

Squidge:

Like I said before… Final Fantasy VII Remake isn’t a remake, to me it’s a re-telling

We then talk about the expanded lore regarding Mako, Materia, monsters, and SOLDIER; during which Lulu drops this quote:

You traded a normal life for power, you cannot have it both ways.

I mean, daayyyyyyyum!

Lulu then drops a real SPOILER bomb!

well, a spoiler for folks who have never played the original

And we discuss the difference between those who have and those who have not - but who is who?

Our Hopes, Going Forward

Squidge really wants to play as frog Cloud again.

And I point out that, in the original you visit Gold Saucer and have fight a bunch of baddies as Frog Cloud. So it’s not outside the realms of possibility.

Squidge then follows this up with

Squidge:

How very dare you! How dare you make me feel for these characers!

At the time of recording, Squidge was just about to start a point in the game where he would have to try and save everyone from the Sector 7 plate collapsing.

More character development for Barret, please. Seriously, the interactions between him and Marlene are super sweet

I’m told - one of these days, I’ll get a PlayStation 4

or I could just wait until it comes out for the Switch

or I could wait until the Lockdown is over and play Squidge’s copy

even though there are slivers of character development throughout, we never really see Barret grow in part one of the remake. So here’s hoping that SquEnix make a good try of it.

Lulu:

The only waifu you need: and that’s Tifa

I’m not even going to try and explain that one. It speaks for itself. And perfectly encompasses the thoughts and feelings of both Squidge and Lulu about Tifa, I think.

Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie

One of the many things that Squidge and Lulu agree on is that Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie are amazing. It’s great to hear that they are used a little more in the remake. And Squidge’s retelling of Wedge’s place in a specific mission for Jessie really made me want to play the remake - just for that section. Also, it sounds like AVALANCHE are more than just a 6 person outfit - which is how it always came across in the original.

Even with Jessie’s almost constant teasing and fnar-fnar‘ing at Cloud’s expense - although her goal was entirely just to open him up.

Both Squidge and Lulu ask “HOW VERY DARE YOU?” when talking about what happens with both Jessie and Aerith

SPOLIERS FOR THE REST OF THE STORY, BTW

Wrapping Up

Squidge is really looking forward to more of Final Fantasy VII, and Lulu reckons that we three should meet again

unintentional Scottish Play?

but really wants to know how Square-Enix are going to handle the rest of the story, split the game up, and meet Vincent.

The problem with coming back and doing another episode is that I’ll have to either:

• wait until it comes out on something other than PS4
  • which will be about a year from now
• or head over to Squidge’s house, camp out there, and demand that he let’s me play it on his PS4

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Music

Links to the music used in the podcast can be found below. Definitely check them out, because they're amazing tracks by awesome musicians.

• Intro music is Among The Stars, from the Cosmos Music Pack by Muz Station Productions
• Spoiler Break music is Spectrum (Subdiffusion Mix) by Foniqz (BandCamp)
• Pallet Cleanser music is Breath Deep Breath Clear (Wu Chi) by Siobhan Dakay
• Outro Music is I N e e d Y o u 私の側て by G.H (removed from BandCamp)